Zerohedge helped Salil Mehta get his email, blog, and other accounts back after they were vanished by Google.
Yesterday we reported that in a shocking, and unexplained move, statistics professor Salil Mehta, adjunct professor at Columbia and Georgetown who teaches probability and data science and whose work has appeared on this website on numerous prior occasions, had been banned by Google on Friday, with his email, blog and other Google-linked accounts wiped clean and no longer accessible.
As we discussed yesterday, it was not clear what Salil did to provoke Google:
On Friday afternoon East Coast Time by surprise, I was completely shut down in all my Google accounts (all of my gmail accounts, blog, all of my university pages that were on google sites, etc.) for no reason and no warning. A number of us were stunned and unsure, but clearly we know at this point it wasn’t an accident.
As Salil explained, he had never engaged in political discourse, and his content was purely math/statistics-focused: "My background is clean, and without a political or social agenda. I am not promoting any specific viewpoint. I teach probability math and that’s it. Have worked with both the Obama administration and advised on polling statistics for the Trump campaign, am an adjunct professor at three top universities, an editor of the peer-reviewed journal of the American Statistical Association, and wrote a best-selling statistics book (all the proceeds of which I gave to charity!)"
And yet, Salil's attempts to get to the bottom of his purge were fruitless:
I have followed their common “appeal” form but no response for three days. Also connected with one of the VPs over the weekend and it still takes time until receiving this today! Just more of a reflection of how cold a company can treat someone very poorly: without any information, and lack of ability to move forward in their life (can I get real reasons if any, can I get advance notice, can I get my contact list back from gmail, and why are university properties unrelated to my blog shut down?)
We are going to be looking back on this time in Google’s history and those of other social media and know that they have done some very immoral and confusing things, and it has hurt their public reputation with decent people who wanted to grow into the next future with them.
Until yesterday, Google's only response was a generic form statement it issues to every account that is "in violation of its Terms of Service." That changed yesterday, because after our article detailing Salil's plight went viral, and was read 300,000 times, Google responded and as of this morning, has restored all of Salil Metha's accounts.
That's
great and all, but the irony of someone being unvanished because he
did NOT engage in any Constitutionally-protected political free speech
is sizable indeed. Most people are not going to have the online might
of Zerohedge behind them, or happen to be a politically unblemished
minority professor who worked with the Obama administration, which
means that most of us are beholden to the goodwill and commitment to
Internet neutrality of the various social media giants.
Since these corporations are
heavily converged, since SJWs always double down, and since the
executives who are not themselves SJWs have repeatedly shown
themselves to be too weak to stand up to much direct pressure from
their internal SJWs, it is imperative that everyone who is to the
right of Salil Metha have a backup plan already
in place and already implemented starting
right now. That means everything from email
addresses, websites, and payment processors to ISPs and domain
registry alternatives.
If you want to be accessible by our
rapid response program and you are not VFM, you have four
alternatives.
Follow me on Twitter. This is the least preferable option since I anticipate a massive, multiplatform strike will be the next step after the surgical deplatformings and demonetizations prove ineffective. I am reliably informed that SJWs inside Twitter, Google, Facebook, and Paypal are already putting this plan together and are now working on figuring out how to sell it to the decision-makers at their respective corporations. Saner heads may prevail, in fact, they probably will prevail at Google and Paypal, since the executives there understand that further fracturing the Internet is not good for their future growth, but there are no guarantees, and as we know from our experience with Amazon, even a rogue strike or two by employees acting without permission or approval cannot be ruled out.
Follow me on Gab. This is safe, but not necessarily timely, particularly if you're not already actively using Gab.
Sign up for the Book Club. You'll get 1-3 book announcements per month. This is the least disruptive option that ensures you are rapidly contacted.
Sign up for the Daily Meme Wars. You'll get six emails per week, five with the Meme of the Day, and the sixth containing a summary and a poll to vote in the meme of the week. This is the option I'd prefer people to select, because #DailyMemeWars has proven to be increasingly effective social media artillery.
You can, of course, do any combination of these or all four if you see fit. But the important thing is to do at least one of them. And remember, you can always reach me at my infogalactic email if my gmail address is vanished.
VD at
Dumping Google is hard, but doable. Get your email off Gmail ASAP, it's a linchpin that's difficult to recover from if they kill it. Blog is next. I just migrated and shut down a Google for Business account because of the owner of the account reading the writing on the wall. Don't give the SJWs another cent, exit now.
Glad Mehta's un-unpersoned, but
it'd be nice to know how and why it happened and then un-happened.
Mehta insists on Twitter that he
"doesn't carry any grievance against any part of Google," and that he
has "no intention of further comments." Less prominent people don't
have his ability to fight back so well, and need help, too.
He seems content to take his
"victory" and allow any other Google victims to fend for themselves.
A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty CentsAugust 22, 2017 1:27 PM
Glad Mehta's un-unpersoned, but
it'd be nice to know how and why it happened and then un-happened.
Which explanation bothers you more:
1. That would be telling. Star
Chamber rules.
2. Nobody at Google knows, because
an AI did it.
3. Both of the above.
This will become more common,
because they've hired rooms full of SJWs to police content, and
apparently given them carte blanche to close accounts. There may be
some sort of oversight system where a low-level drone has to get a
manager's sign-off to do what this one did, but if the manager is an
SJW, that's not a problem. And how many low-level drones will trash
accounts now and then for something offensive without the proper
authorization, figuring most people will never make through Google's
automated >/dev/null customer service system, so it will never come
back to bite them?
Be diversified. Have multiple
accounts in multiple places. If you're uploading content, from blog
posts to videos, upload them to multiple services, including small
ones that a purge may not take into account. (I've been thinking about
the feasibility of running a blog on pastebin sites.) Spread things
around. Have backups of everything you care about, preferably at your
own location, not in the cloud. Have a plan to restore them. Think
about how quickly you need to be able to do that: are you a popular
hub that needs to be able to spin back up at a new location within
hours, or would it be fine to drop your friends a "experiencing
technical difficulties" email and be back up in a week? Know what
content is most critical to get back up first. Have multiple emails
(and/or phone numbers and postal addresses) for your most important
contacts, so if they get purged, you still have ways to
reach them.
-Proton mail seems to be a good
option, lots of other too though.
-There are several cloud providers
out there. experimenting with Owncloud. It works, could use a little
polishing but functional for attaching mobile devices, PC's etc to a
common cloud. On that note you can download your entire google archive
and then store it locally or move it to a cloud service like Owncloud.
if anyone has suggestions for other
good cloud providers I'm open to suggestions.
Download your google data (note the
quantity of data can be substantial):
https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/3024190?hl=en
Lee
1)Download all of your google data:
https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/3024190?hl=en
2) setup multiple email accounts
and/or cloud access
3) realize cloud storage has risks
and backup locally anything critical.
Some possible alternative
providers:
Protonmail.com (email)
Fastmail.com (email)
Kolabnow.com (email + cloud +
storage +calendar & contacts), similar to a google account)
@7 cali
Its funny that you now need to
approach the internet using the same security and backup approach you
would normally use for the darknet.
VPN, multiple accounts, replicate
data storage etc etc!!!
Looking GlassAugust 22, 2017 2:04 PM
https://archive.is/Yj9WM
This is that network analysis of
the "Alt-Right" that cropped up a few months ago. The important parts
is that they've now attacked everyone on that list, even tangentially,
and that VD never shows up. The first makes sense, as that was the
reason it was produced. The second seems to be because it's more of
the Identitarian groups.
There's a chance VD gets missed in
the purges, but we'll see.
The main thing for a lot of people
here: get in touch with your Churches. And then the Elders. Get
discussing the fact that they're coming for *you* next. It's time to
start moving now.
A statistician specializing in electoral analysis suddenly gets un-personed by Google? Makes you wonder if he may have been involved in ongoing analysis of the "anomalous" voting patterns that have been brought to light recently as evidence for ongoing systemic Democrat vote fraud.
Looking GlassAugust 22, 2017 2:10 PM
I looked through that intel report
a little closer. I see now why VD got missed, mostly. Most of the work
was done when he was off Twitter, and he doesn't YouTube. Hilariously
enough, Judeo-Christ gets a few more mentions.
They don't know how to analyze
Periscope yet, it seems.
A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty CentsAugust 22, 2017 2:24 PM
Looking Glass
The main thing for a lot of
people here: get in touch with your Churches. And then the Elders.
Get discussing the fact that they're coming for *you* next.
That's worth a try, but most church
leaders won't understand what you are talking about. Try convincing
them that only members should use the church for a marriage, they
won't even understand that issue. It's going to take some real pain
before church leaders over 50 begin to see what's going on around
them.
A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty CentsAugust 22, 2017 2:26 PM
Anyone else think these "mistakes" where normal, respectable, semi-prominent figures have their Google accounts temporarily shuttered by "accident" to normalize people to the idea of this being a regular occurrence. Same thing happened to Jordan Peterson recently, and it struck me that these incidents of people receiving access back quickly are preparation for something bigger and longer term.
@Looking Glass: laughing at the programming skillz on display. "We tried to load a 4 GB JSON file into memory but it was too big. So we went to CSV." Completely inept.
Google is doing me a favor. I knew
I should be getting off that system (still looking at finding a
different OS for my phone, RIP cyanogen mod) and this pushed me to do
it. It's laborious to switch all my billing and subscription emails,
but the impetus is now there.
The "free, as long as we snoop you
and deluge you with ads" model has IMO reached apogee, with nowhere to
go but down. Tech is simply too cheap, as is content. The "price" of
free is now obviously too high for some, and the ranks of "some" seem
likely to swell in a tsunami.
This is fascinating. Phil Zimmerman
barely escaped prison when he crafted PGP (appropriating RSA in the
process) and it (ahem) somehow made it into the Internet Wilds in
violation of munitions export law back in, what? 1992?
For decades, people have paid zero
attention to privacy of their mails. The sanctity of mail used to be a
Heap Big Deal as was the position of Postmaster. I guess the rise of
our Sheep Phase meant little care was given to living in a glass tank.
Google is giving us the nudge not
even all the revelations about NSA domestic spying offered.
Kyle
Searle wrote:@Looking Glass:
laughing at the programming skillz on display. "We tried to load a 4
GB JSON file into memory but it was too big. So we went to CSV."
Completely inept.
What's wrong with clumsily jamming
poorly understood tools (that other people wrote) together until
something more-or-less useful comes out? Isn't that how modern
programming is done?
AzDesertRatAugust 22, 2017 2:44 PM
*Off topic*
Does Gab have a direct email
contact for customer support issues? Trying to reset my password and
nothing is being emailed to me after hitting the "Forgot Password"
link.
@23 at the risk of offering "is it plugged in?" help, check spam folder; I found all my attempts to sign up for meme wars there.
Looking
Glass wrote:https://archive.is/Yj9WM
This is that
network analysis of the "Alt-Right" that cropped up a few months
ago. The important parts is that they've now attacked everyone on
that list, even tangentially, and that VD never shows up. The first
makes sense, as that was the reason it was produced. The second
seems to be because it's more of the Identitarian groups.
There's a
chance VD gets missed in the purges, but we'll see.
The main thing
for a lot of people here: get in touch with your Churches. And then
the Elders. Get discussing the fact that they're coming for *you*
next. It's time to start moving now.
It dawns on me that their research
is rather flawed and they don't even realize it. "Alt-right.com" is
not the alt-right but if they are simply doing word association then
it will always show up larger because it's "alt-right.com". I'm
guessing they are not doing any kind of semiotic analysis.
A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty CentsAugust 22, 2017 2:47 PM
I knew I should be getting off
that system (still looking at finding a different OS for my phone,
That reminds me, even the
mainstream has Noticed what Google is doing.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/4295350/did-you-know-google-has-been-secretly-recording-you-heres-how-to-find-the-creepy-audio-files-that-are-monitoring-your-conversations-every-day/
Looking GlassAugust 22, 2017 2:48 PM
@21 dc.sunsets
Have you tried to setup PGP chains?
Encrypted email is a pain to get running in a lot of ways.
https://www.softwar.net/index.html is a place for some solid crypto
tools, if you need them.
I think the big issue is something
that Snowden highlighted. My feelings on Snowden is that he would be a
traitor except X-Keyscore exists. Digital tech took 40 years to
finally be able to capture all traffic. Almost the entire Internet
Infrastructure was built on the "really expensive to store things"
model. That's changed, and it's going to take time for things to
change.
Most of the tech you would want
exists, it's just currently very expensive. That'll change over time.
Check junk mail and blocked
settings. Your provider may have blocked those no good natzees as a
courtesy.
Or Gab needs a better password
reset ai.
Looking GlassAugust 22, 2017 2:49 PM
Have you tried to setup PGP
chains?
Ten years ago, I actually had a
couple clients who insisted on PGP email between us. Now I get emails:
"Hey, can you mail me my password?"
PGP (or GPG, or whatever) keys
might be a pretty good way to construct a web of trust in a
leaderless, non-organized organization.
"...who teaches probability and
data science and whose work has appeared on this website on numerous
prior occasions..."
Welp found the reason for the
vanishing. Zerohedge may have rubbed a few SJWs' feefees the wrong
way, thus putting a bullseye target on anyone who has contributed in
any way to any post on the site, ever-no matter how benign, and
regardless of prior political associations.
There certainly are ore than a few
SJWs who stay up late doing their homework, fwiw.
I could be wrong, of course.
Somewhat OT but since we are
talking tech.....
Its interesting that multiple US
war ships have suddenly seemed to forget how to sail, running aground,
colliding with some of the largest ships on the ocean.....
Sounds like someone has been
testing some shiny new electronic warfare tools on the US naval fleet.
That could be a nasty surprise.
I'm no naval expert so perhaps I'm
way off but it seems the US navy suddenly forgot how to sail even with
all of their fancy system or someone has some fun electronic warfare
toys that could make the US navy have a very bad day.
January 31: USS Antietam,
Ticonderoga class (Aegis) cruiser, runs aground. In dry dock for
repairs to propellers and more. Supposedly drug anchor and hit shoals
when under power.
May 9: USS Lake Champlain,
Ticonderoga class (Aegis) cruiser, is in a collision with a fishing
vessel.
June 17: USS Fitzgerald, Arleigh
Burke class (Aegis) destroyer, is in a collision with a container
ship. Being brought back to CONUS for repairs.
August 21: USS John S McCain,
Arleigh Burke class (Aegis) destroyer, is in a collision with a tanker
ship. Needs major repairs.
@27 looking glass
PGP isnt that bad, with current
tools its reasonable to use. The problem is behavioral, people are too
accustomed to high trust communications. PGP implementation really
just needs a little UI streamlining and people must shift to "low
trust" communications expectations
Looking GlassAugust 22, 2017 3:11 PM
@33 Grayman
The Fitz appears to be a straight
up collapse in operational ability by the entire command staff. The
rest are more suspicious. Or the Fitz was targeted because of that
reason, so it's hard to sort out.
It could just be an over-extension
issue merged with the Social Justice push, which is going to take a
couple of years to undo, or someone is using some new tech weapons. It
was Daylight and you got T-boned by a Super Tanker. That takes some
real skill to not have anyone with binoculars.
Binoculars? You don't need bin is to avoid running into, or getting T-boned by a supertanker in broad daylight, especially when you have the speed and nimbleness of a destroyer which has 1/4 the turning radius and 3x the speed of a supertanker.
basementhomebrewerAugust 22, 2017 3:16 PM
Looking
Glass wrote:@33
Grayman
The Fitz
appears to be a straight up collapse in operational ability by the
entire command staff. The rest are more suspicious. Or the Fitz was
targeted because of that reason, so it's hard to sort out.
It could just
be an over-extension issue merged with the Social Justice push,
which is going to take a couple of years to undo, or someone is
using some new tech weapons. It was Daylight and you got T-boned by
a Super Tanker. That takes some real skill to not have anyone with
binoculars.
They were probably too busy taking
turns sitting down to pee while wearing high heels.
I would suspect we are seeing the
natural result of an 8 year campaign to converge the US military. Many
people were promoted past their competence in order to further the
narrative.
Some helpful advice from a couple
of years ago:
Kicking
google out of my life
Looking
Glass wrote:@33
Grayman
The Fitz
appears to be a straight up collapse in operational ability by the
entire command staff. The rest are more suspicious. Or the Fitz was
targeted because of that reason, so it's hard to sort out.
It could just
be an over-extension issue merged with the Social Justice push,
which is going to take a couple of years to undo, or someone is
using some new tech weapons. It was Daylight and you got T-boned by
a Super Tanker. That takes some real skill to not have anyone with
binoculars.
Binoculars? Working eyeballs would
do just fine. Arleigh Burke class destroyers are very fast and nimble;
if they were under power and had a couple hundred yards worth of
warning they could've easily gotten out of the way. Even at night I
doubt seamen on watch would even need NVGs to spot a giant tanker
within a mile or so most of the time.
I'm suspicious that something is
causing the ships to lose power so they can't react. Total
incompetence is not out of the question, but who knows, I'm not a
sailor and never was.
Looking GlassAugust 22, 2017 3:21 PM
@37 basementhomebrewer
Partially. It's that the good ones
left. Realize who most of Trump's Military-types around him are? 3
Star Generals that couldn't get their 4th because they were White Men.
Speaking of Unpersoning:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/08/22/treasury-secretary-mnuchin-targets-china-russia-entities-for-dprk-support/
The Donald is smacking China around. The Alt-Left would need Wisdom to
realize he's actually using a lot of their tactics in this regard, but
Trump knows what he is doing.
@12, LookingGlass, VD does show up, actually, under the twitter analysis "belonging" metric, when it starts to go into detail he pops up between Cernovich and Jack Posobiec.
AvalancheAugust 22, 2017 3:29 PM
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@39 Rough @Looking glass
There are lots of maybe's but I
dont think its likely to be just operational degradation. There was
also the hubbub about the the USS Donald S. Cook April 12, 2015
encounter with the Russian jet and subsequent return to port in the
black sea.
It takes effort to get run over by
some of the largest ships on the sea. They dont move that fast and can
be seen for miles.
@39. roughcoat, can confirm. Even
from the sail of a submarine (18-30 feet above the waterline
approximately) you can see things like tankers for a bare minimum of
eight miles at night with no magnification. I'd actually argue that
it's easier to see things at night because of the running lights.
NVGs? They wouldn't even give you
NVGs on lookout. Never, in my experience. It's beyond unnecessary. The
only time they might even consider it is in a (totally barbaric) area
that routinely has ships with no running lights out at night
(#whattheactualf***/#suicidewatch/#epicdeathwish) which I don't even
know if exists outside of maybe some kind of piracy.
The only times you're gonna have
issues is with reduced visibility conditions, such as heavy fog or
very rough stormy weather.
AvalancheAugust 22, 2017 3:36 PM
@12 There's
a chance VD gets missed in the purges, but we'll see.
There's also the chance that since
they know he has moles in all the big tech co's, they're playing it
smart and leaving him alone .... for now ....
Vox is, as he implied in one of his
recent 'scopes, pretty SJW-proof "because they know he'll burn them to
the ground (metaphorically .... for now ....) if they trespass on his
stuff. Supreme Dark Lord, indeed!
@44 Azure Amaranthine
Makes sense; if seamen are anything
like privates they'd probably end up losing a set of NVGs every week
to the ocean depths if they did hand them out.
CloseHauledAugust 22, 2017 3:42 PM
StickwickAugust 22, 2017 3:47 PM
Something's not adding up.
Peterson and Mehta are both
respected academicians and not even remotely "extremist" - so, what is
motivating Google to de-platform them?
They're also well known and well
connected - which means a lot of people are going to hear about it.
On the surface, all this seems to
be accomplishing is making Google look fickle and untrustworthy.
There's no up side to it for them that I can see, which strongly
suggests something's going on that we're not aware of.
There's also the chance that
since they know he has moles in all the big tech co's, they're
playing it smart and leaving him alone .... for now.
I think it's more likely that
they'd like to be able to continue to read my email and see what is
going on at the blog. They vanish me, they lose that insight.
It's not difficult to register a
domain and just set up your own email address for your own purposes,
costs $150/year, but perhaps all the registrars are converged.
Over the past month, eight trucks
have been stolen in an area north of me (these still exist) where
high-trust remains. All eight were unlocked and had the keys in the
ignition and the locals were utterly shocked with the crime. As on the
web, high-trust will not endure in this little slice of heaven and all
will be forced to adapt.
I want to thank the SJWs of Google for giving me that added push to move important communications over to my protonmail accounts and leave the Goolag behind.
@Grayman: The USS Donald S Cook didn't run because of the Russian Jet. It ran when the Russians lit it up with the targeting radar of a Bastion coastal defense missile battery. The ship's captain decided the better part of valor lay in being far far away from Crimea.
AzDesertRatAugust 22, 2017 4:06 PM
RC
wrote:Over the past
month, eight trucks have been stolen in an area north of me (these
still exist) where high-trust remains. All eight were unlocked and
had the keys in the ignition and the locals were utterly shocked
with the crime. As on the web, high-trust will not endure in this
little slice of heaven and all will be forced to adapt.
I've seen that happen as well, in
an area that began importing Africans back in the mid-90's. Watching
that kind of community trust, that has been built up and existed for
generations, die within a few years is both an incredible red pill and
saddening.
Stickwick
wrote:Something's not
adding up.
Peterson and
Mehta are both respected academicians and not even remotely
"extremist" - so, what is motivating Google to de-platform them?
They're also
well known and well connected - which means a lot of people are
going to hear about it.
On the surface,
all this seems to be accomplishing is making Google look fickle and
untrustworthy. There's no up side to it for them that I can see,
which strongly suggests something's going on that we're not aware
of.
Exactly, as I mentioned upthread
something seems off. My thought is that it's being done for the
purpose of normalizing the behaviour in the minds of the public.
Because it appears to happen almost without reason or purpose, we can
never truly know whether it's a deliberate measure or just an accident
based on some AI flag or a technical glitch. People see someone get
vanished and then unvanished a day later, they're going to start to
see it as normal. Then when people stop getting accounts reinstated,
it's not going to stand out in their minds; either they'll keep
waiting for it to happen or they'll just stop thinking about it. Some
people will just think "Oh this is obviously a mistake, it will be
fixed sooner or later", and let Google or others off the hook.
At least that's the only
explanation that makes sense to me; I'm more than interested in
hearing any other theories about why this appears to be a trend when
it comes to a high-visibility, slightly controversial figures.
Regarding the recent destroyer
"accidents". GPS spoofing only goes so far, it does not work on
navigational radar nor on the topside watchstanders. However.
Autopilot is a computer, computers can be hacked. If programmatically
the autopilot is hacked it could suddenly turn the ship right into the
path of another vessel. It controls speed and direction so commands
the rudder and the screws.
In the sub force we used to keep
the autopilot turned off and the power circuits disconnected and
tagged out on the power panels in IC alley. It was never trusted and
never used. But the skimmers (surface fleet) - who knows what they do.
Hacking the autopilot including turning it on programmatically and
having it steer the ship into danger -- the crew would first not know
what was happening nor the cause. If discovered someone would have to
run to the correct power panel and throw the correct unlabelled switch
(might be one, might be three) to disconnect it and regain helm
control. I suspect there is no training for that, and can believe that
no one on the bridge even knows where the power disconnect is.
what is motivating Google to
de-platform them?
"Google" probably isn't. It's not
like there was a high-up meeting at Google where it was decided to
delete these individuals, or even to go after a particular class of
offender. In most of these cases, an offended SJW happens to have an
SJW friend at a social media company, so she makes a call, and the
friend bans the offender. I don't think the left hand has any idea
what the right hand is doing at these places anymore, because they've
brought in so many monitors to handle complaints, and many are SJWs.
They also typically have no procedure to appeal bans, at least nothing
concrete that connects you to a real person or lets you face your
accuser, so they don't have to fear reprisal unless they happen to
pick on someone prominent enough to bring a lot of attention to it. So
the SJWs can get away with petty bans 99% of the time, and they get
off on it, so they do it.
I've never signed up for paypal for
that reason and got off Google too, but this isn't even recent. I
think paypalwarning.com is over 10 years old and they were randomly
disappearing accounts and you had to fax a utility bill, passport,
etc. at 2am when it was turned on to get the account unlocked, and
there was a big effort to find the well hidden contact number.
Google when it added everyone on
YouTube to Google+ ended up afoul of their "real names policy" and
started locking and disappearing accounts. That was 2 or 3 years ago,
or was it longer?
Lesson: first, if you aren't out to
deplatform and it takes positive effort (e.g. a child pornogropher) it
is unlikely to be done accidentally. second, have an appeals path that
is likely to be seen by someone who can do something quickly.
Before it happened "accidentally".
Now it has been weaponized.
Gab.ai has that and the alt-tech
will have to keep that idea even as it gets big.
Did someone mention facebook
irrelevance?
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2017/08/19/20170822_fb_0.png
Because it appears to happen
almost without reason or purpose, we can never truly know whether
it's a deliberate measure or just an accident based on some AI flag
or a technical glitch.
Good point. We're never told who
actually did it or why or how, so normies will buy the accident excuse
rather than believe their social media is turning on them.
When dozens of unrelated Catholic
groups and pages on Facebook went missing recently, and were later
given the "technical glitch" excuse, most people didn't have the
know-how to realize how unlikely that was. And if you suspect, what
can you do? You stay or you go.
Nym
Coy wrote:... unless your
registrar decides to nix infogalactic.com like GoDaddy and Namecheap
did.
Enom doesn't seem to give a shit
what content is up on the domains registered with them so I don't
think that's an immediate concern. I'm not that big a fan of Enom
because their customer service is mediocre, or it was a couple years
ago.
The CEO of easyDNS is a
self-described free speech absolutist who has warned about the dangers
of the web middlemen censoring speech, so that's the company I'll
probably use from now on unless some enterprising Alt-Tech type starts
a domain registration company.
roughcoat
wrote:Nym
Coy wrote:... unless your registrar decides to nix
infogalactic.com like GoDaddy and Namecheap did.
Enom doesn't
seem to give a shit what content is up on the domains registered
with them so I don't think that's an immediate concern. I'm not that
big a fan of Enom because their customer service is mediocre, or it
was a couple years ago.
The CEO of
easyDNS is a self-described free speech absolutist who has warned
about the dangers of the web middlemen censoring speech, so that's
the company I'll probably use from now on unless some enterprising
Alt-Tech type starts a domain registration company.
Ah, whoops. It's Castalia House
with Enom. I don't know anything about the registrar Infogalactic is
on.
unless your registrar decides to
nix infogalactic.com like GoDaddy and Namecheap did.
Very unlikely. Infogalactic is
demonstrably and provably neutral. That's why even the hit pieces
don't attack us.
Here's a thought WRT the Navy's
recent problems:
Remember the Prius hacks where
someone took remote control of the car? Gee-whiz-bang high tech has
been a winner in .mil procurement for...how long? Then again, maybe
it's just a Blue Screen of Death on the computer doing the
steering.... G-D Windows ME.
WRT un-un-un-unplatforming people,
if it is occurring due to SJ-Warriors, Cubicle Theater of Warfare
Division, imagine that FIRING such people is all but certain to
generate 1) VERY bad publicity and 2) almost certainly lawsuits.
It's difficult enough for most
large organizations to can overly incompetent CSR's. Imagine a cubicle
farm full of chartreuse-, mauve- and iridescent blue-haired fatties
(men, women, and N/A) sifting everything with a Mandate From SJW-GOD.
StickwickAugust 22, 2017 5:21 PM
Cail Corishev: "Google"
probably isn't. It's not like there was a high-up meeting at Google
where it was decided to delete these individuals, or even to go
after a particular class of offender. In most of these cases, an
offended SJW happens to have an SJW friend at a social media
company, so she makes a call, and the friend bans the offender.
That makes a lot of sense. In that
case, Google should be motivated to lock that nonsense down, though
maybe it's too late now. Vox said on a Darkstream the other night that
these big tech companies survive on the margin. If appreciable numbers
of people start jumping ship because of uncontrolled SJW shenanigans,
then that could hurt their longterm survival.
Vox has already said this many
times, but this latest Google nonsense just emphasizes the absolute
necessity of NOT letting SJWs into your organization; they're cancer.
ResourcesAugust 22, 2017 5:21 PM
My thought is that it's being
done for the purpose of normalizing the behaviour in the minds of
the public. Because it appears to happen almost without reason or
purpose
The leftists want a brown mud
people so stupid that they think taking payday loans is a good idea.
Clearly a site that helps with math is as dangerous as a GAS THE JEWS
site.
It takes effort to get run over
by some of the largest ships on the sea. They dont move that fast
and can be seen for miles.
Only white & Asians have
members that care about duty. Maybe someone set up pokemon go monsters
in the water near there.
civilServantAugust 22, 2017 6:02 PM
(Since you seem to address this to
everyone)
If you want to be accessible by
our rapid response program and you are not VFM, you have four
alternatives.
Just curious. You believe that the
internet infrastructure itself sufficiently neutral that you can
maintain connectivity if actively opposed?
A throw
away temporary e-mail sent out on a one-time basis is probably going
to get through so that a message carrying the URL for a new
congregating point will probably get through.
Also...Let's not forget IRC
(Internet Relay Chat). A channel can be created by anyone at anytime
on most IRC networks. Undernet has nodes around the planet. DALnet is
strongly supported in the U.S., and there are more.
@Stickwick
I think it os much more serious
than just normalizing a behaviour. The sudden and unexplained
deplatforming of academics serves as a warning to everyone else: "toe
the line or you will be thrown down the memory hole as well".
Frankly, even MiniTrue does not
have the human or AI resources to deplatform everyone who might engage
in wrongthink, but if enough people get the message and start self
censoring or putting themselves on the Internet altogether, then half
the work is already done at little or no cost to the SJWs.
While we absolutely need to move to
alternative platforms, there needs to be work own both truly
alternative tech solutions (mesh networks and the like) to prevent
traffic from being seen or censored by the Progressives, and going to
totally alternative modes of communication they can't control. Think
of Soviet era Samizdat or even snail mail. Vox's meme attacks work
when spread via street art, bumper stickers placed in public spaces
(or put on a car with an Obama or Hillary sticker!), once again,
places they can't look into or go.
I'm sure much smarter people an
think of better avenues of approach, but realistically we need to
become the "small furry mammals" and start moving into the ecological
niches the dinosaurs haven't occupied, and then start nibbling at any
exposed surfaces they leave out for us.
A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable CentsAugust 22, 2017 6:28 PM
@66 Stickwick
. If appreciable numbers of
people start jumping ship because of uncontrolled SJW shenanigans,
then that could hurt their longterm survival.
Google is becoming unreliable as a
service. That means science and engineering researchers should not
trust Google+ to safely retain data, analysis, documents, etc. Faculty
should guide their graduate students to other, more reliable,
repositories. Because Google cannot be trusted to do its job now that
it has become a playground for Social Justice Warriors.
Those in academia or associated
with academics should pass this along, regretfully, not in anger but
rather as a sad necessity.
Any thoughts on Amazon? I imagine a lot of you are voracious readers like me, and your purchases probably reflect a certain degree of thoughtcrime. I'd be very surprised if THEY are not already using Amazon to profile people based on what books they buy.
LurkingPuppyAugust 22, 2017 6:36 PM
Kyle
Searle wrote:@Looking Glass:
laughing at the programming skillz on display. "We tried to load a 4
GB JSON file into memory but it was too big. So we went to CSV."
Completely inept.
… except that the most widespread
JSON parsing libraries don't have a streaming interface. The dumbassed
part was the preceding step, when they converted data that had been
supplied to them as a Postgres database into a single flat file.
Looking GlassAugust 22, 2017 6:44 PM
http://www.christianpost.com/news/youtube-just-demonetized-hundreds-of-our-videos-196268/
This was YouTube videos, but
Christian Post got mass demonetized. The purge continues apace. There
definitely seems to be a paid group that's going around flagging
everyone. Though YouTube's demonetization issue is, technically,
different. They want all non-HGTV content gone.
A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty CentsAugust 22, 2017 7:01 PM
Christian Post got mass
demonetized
Now there is a market for a
Christian-only video hosting service.
Perhaps a specific nonprofit could
be incorporated to oversee it. The first line in the TOS should be
Matthew 7:12
Sorry I'm late to the party,
especially with an OT question....
For VD (or others who might know):
Do you know anything about zensurfrei.com, an outfit which says it
does censorship-free webhosting? Would it be a good site to move a
domain registration to and have as a webhost?
Thanks in advance,
TQC
A.B. ProsperAugust 22, 2017 7:03 PM
Looking Glass Above
This was YouTube videos, but
Christian Post got mass demonetized. The purge continues apace. There
definitely seems to be a paid group that's going around flagging
everyone. Though YouTube's demonetization issue is, technically,
different. They want all non-HGTV content gone.
YouTube is hemorrhaging money and
advertisers are leaving in droves effecting even videos with no
"Right" content at all . Its called adpocalypse over there
The economic smart play is to just
dump YouTube entirely but this would piss off enough people they might
start dropping other Google products
That said it could be fixed with a
smarter algorithm that sorted content , Right wing adds on some
things, Left on others
Problem is even if they could get
it past the political idiots convergence makes you stupid and there is
no guarantee anyone would trust them
I suspect though as the bunko
economy continues to implode, ads in general will become less
effective. I have no idea how content or communications is going to be
paid for sans advertising but given we need mass media like we need
smallpox it won't be a bad thing to find out
An internet where people pay a
modest fee for their own blog either as promotion for something else
or just for fun so long as there are enough service providers to keep
it open will be smaller but better
eventually replacing most things
where possible with open source is also going to be a good thing
though an open source, volunteer driven economy will be deeply strange
. It won't be Left or Right exactly but more tribal. Needless to say
scale junkies will hate it.
Oh, one other question - I am trying to de-Googleify my smartphone (Samsung). Is there any way to actually *get rid of* the Google apps on there, as opposed to merely "turning them off"?
A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty CentsAugust 22, 2017 7:10 PM
@78
Great question, I look forward to
responses.
The Dolphin shareware browser has
been working well enough for me on Android platforms, I do not use
Google on them at all.
Alternatives to Android as an O/S
seem to be pretty skimpy. The attempt to use Ubuntu might have had
promise but it's gone.
f283t3f7y73gjgfu3August 22, 2017 7:11 PM
"Infogalactic is demonstrably and
provably neutral"
Really?! You of all people, saying
that? When the fuck has "demonstrably and provably neutral" ever
stopped Leftists from anything? Next thing you know, you'll be telling
us that they obey facts and listen to reason.
Just curious. You believe that
the internet infrastructure itself sufficiently neutral that you can
maintain connectivity if actively opposed?
It all depends upon how deep you
want to go. At this point, the USA is just as at risk of the rest of
the world cutting it off. China and Turkey already have their own
internets; the concept is called Internet Sovereignty.
Every nation should have
independent authority over its own Internet, Chinese President Xi
Jinping said Wednesday, telling a government-organised conference
that "freedom and order" are both necessary in cyberspace.
The tech giants are playing into
China's hands with these games. Once you concede the need for control,
you have no argument against national Internet sovereignty.
Noticed that Chateau Heartiste hasn't had a new post in five days. I wonder if he's been locked out of his account... by "accident", of course.
Given that Google phones are evil
and
iphones are fascist, it's time for
Blackberry to make a comeback as the alt tech phone of choice.
Really?! You of all people,
saying that? When the fuck has "demonstrably and provably neutral"
ever stopped Leftists from anything? Next thing you know, you'll be
telling us that they obey facts and listen to reason.
Okay, I'll try to type more slowly.
Why do you think they see Infogalactic as an enemy at all? Do you
really think that they LIKE the way Wikipedia screws them over and
denies them any ability to set the record straight? Remember,
Wikipedia HATES corporations and will not let them even create their
own pages there.
So, Infogalactic is better for them
too. That's the beauty of the choose-your-perspective design, and even
the SJW reporters can see that.
If they're going to burn down a
company simply because I'm a designer, they'll have to go after all
sorts of companies, from Sega on down.
You believe that the internet
infrastructure itself sufficiently neutral that you can maintain
connectivity if actively opposed?
They would essentially have to shut
the whole thing down to stop us from using it. And we'd have a new one
built within a year.
VD
wrote:The tech giants
are playing into China's hands with these games. Once you concede
the need for control, you have no argument against national Internet
sovereignty.
Would not NIS be compatible with
Omni-Nationalism?
Looking GlassAugust 22, 2017 7:33 PM
@77 A.B. Prosper
Correct, I do know about the
Adpocalpyse, however Christian Post hadn't gotten touched. Until the
other day. That's a *very* mainstream Christian channel, which means
they're proceeding apace with their drive to be a bland as possible TV
channel website. (Just with 100 million other views.)
As for their model, the
Ad-supported Model doesn't work for Video. Video is too expensive.
(Processing, Storage & Bandwidth) People have to pay, but YouTube
gives high-quality for "free". That free has cost Google between 5 and
15 billion USD over the last decade. [No one wants to point out that
the entire project is an Anti-Trust Violation.]
That network analysis of the alt right is something notable. Such analyses given the right data can figure out who are the main influncees and leutenants in a movement. Even if they are behind the scenes not public. So on the outside they'd lookclean of bad think.
Would not NIS be compatible with
Omni-Nationalism?
Certainly. That's why it is the
wave of the future.
I would suggest replacing gmail
account with either a protonmail.ch , or a mail.ru account.
https://protonmail.com/
https://account.mail.ru/signup?from=main&rf=go.mail.ru
( note, you will have to use a
translator to find the english language default setting )
Neither services are converged, or
even willing to cooperate with US authorities.
And if you are worried about a domain name getting nixed, I suggest paying for one with the original domain registrar, Network Solutions.
ÆtherCzar
wrote:
He seems
content to take his "victory" and allow any other Google victims to
fend for themselves.
We often talk about IQ and the fate
of nations around here, which is all well and good, but the ability to
stand on principle seems to be a Western special. A Western
intellectual so maligned would at least give lip service to the idea
that it shouldn't happen again to other people.
So while the alt-lite is fine with
immigration as long as its from high IQ people, I say no. I don't care
how much of a genius someone is, if they don't share my values they
shouldn't be in my community.
Anyone have success (as a non it guy)with the WD my cloud NAS that keys you setup a cloud based drive at home. I have heard a lot of mixed reviews,
A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable CentsAugust 22, 2017 8:38 PM
Trump in Phoenix
this evening.
Kyle Beach drove from Los
Angeles to hear “truth” from Trump. He wore a shirt bearing an image
of Seth Rich and said he wants to know more about what happened to
the man in the center of the conspiracy theory regarding the leaks
of emails from the Democratic National Committee during last year’s
presidential race.
“President Trump is the only one
who speaks the truth, he’s the only one who tells it like it is, and
that’s the most important thing to me,” said Beach, 29, a designer.
“I want to know what happened with Seth Rich … and I want to know
why the media framed Russia.”
Yes, his name was in fact Seth
Rich.
RC
wrote:It's not
difficult to register a domain and just set up your own email
address for your own purposes, costs $150/year, but perhaps all the
registrars are converged.
Yeah, I did that years ago. I
always figured that if someone offers me a "free" service, then I
don't have a right to expect much from them. TAANSTAFL, and all that.
Unfortunately, the web hosting service and mail provider I chose was
GoDaddy. (This was at least 15 years ago.) And I'm paid up for the
next four years. So even the best laid plans...
How about we begin the de-googling purification with this blog? I run in very tight security mode with my browser--AdBlock on, of course, and NoScript active. Before I can comment on these pages, I have to allow content from Google.com. This leads me to conclude that this blog uses scripts that originate from their servers.
